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Dunno if any of you know anyone on Social Security disability for severe mental illness. I do. I also know some individuals who are too sick to support themselves that were denied those same benefits. It is a tall order to get permanent disability. You have to "certifiable" to get within sniffing distance of SSDI.

We are now going to empower the very sickest of the sickest to pack heat.

I really believe I'd be expatriated from this madness by now if it were strictly up to me. Still trying to cajole the wife to get the fuck out of 'Murucuh.

"When an American suffers from a severe mental illness, to the point that he or she receives disability benefits through the Social Security Administration, there are a variety of limits created to help protect that person and his or her interests. These folks cannot, for example, go to a bank to cash a check on their own.

If congressional Republicans have their way, these impaired people will, however, be able to buy a gun. USA Today reported:

The House of Representatives approved its first effort of the new Congress to roll back gun regulations, voting to overturn a rule that would bar gun ownership by some who have been deemed mentally impaired by the Social Security Administration.

The House voted 235-180 largely along party lines Thursday to repeal an Obama-era rule requiring the Social Security Administration to send records of some beneficiaries to the federal firearms background check system after they’ve been deemed mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs.

The rule, when implemented, would affect about 75,000 recipients of disability insurance and supplemental insurance income who require a representative to manage their benefits because of a disabling mental disorder, ranging from anxiety to schizophrenia.

The full roll call on yesterday’s vote is online here. Note that 97% of House Republicans voted for the measure, while 99% of House Democrats voted against it.

While GOP proponents of the bill argued that it’s unfair to limit the rights of the mentally disabled, Rep. Mike Thompson (D-Calif.), among others, explained, “These are not just people having a bad day…. These are people with a severe mental illness who can’t hold any kind of job or make any decisions about their affairs.”

This did not prove persuasive to Congress’ far-right majority, which supported the measure that enjoyed the enthusiastic backing of the National Rifle Association.

In terms of the substantive details, the Social Security Administration reports the names of those who receive disability benefits due to severe mental illness to the FBI’s background-check system. The House bill intends to block that reporting, making more people eligible to legally buy a firearm.

Often, in the wake of the country’s brutal mass shootings, Republican policymakers have a reflexive set of talking points, and near the top is something intended to sound constructive: working on mental-health issues is a potential area for bipartisan common ground."

Also see: coal dumping approved for rivers and streams; and

foreign government bribes no longer need to be reported;

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...tally-impaired

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Updated 02-05-2017 at 10:27 AM by baikal

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  1. oldsquid's Avatar
    Couldn't get on this site all day yesterday, now it's suddenly working again. Either my laptop has a virus or UL's magic fingers were at work.

    Baikal, this is exactly how the far right screws itself. In the past the NRA has pushed to enforce existing gun laws and keep guns from the hands of those who shouldn't have them. Keeping guns from the hands of people with severe mental illness seems kind of common sense to me. But we're going to have to sacrifice a few innocent Americans to mentally ill people who should never have been armed before this will be reversed. The problem is that when we correct this kind of problem, we also tend to overboard in the opposite direction, and that is how the far right screws itself.

    Same will happen with the open dumping which will now be allowed by mining companies. 20 years from now when kids start showing up with severe birth defects, and it's traced to something the mining companies have dumped in the water, the American people will be reminded that it was the Republicans who allowed that.

    Likewise for the foreign bribe thing. The mobsters are in charge, for the moment. But they always, ALWAYS, fuck it up.
  2. Grillz's Avatar
    You forgot to tag your post baiklzezez.

    We cain't be discriminating against the handicapped even when it comes to hunting or other recreational use of machinery.

    Why do you want to quit the circus buddy, your act is probably gonna take off any day now, the elephants are sick and we's gonna need some type of replacement.

  3. baikal's Avatar
    Why do you want to quit the circus buddy, your act is probably gonna take off any day now, the elephants are sick and we's gonna need some type of replacement.
    Like Barnum and Bailey, this kitschy act is overdue to fold. I'd rather be watching from the outside as it goes down, and would prefer to finish raising my son elsewhere. I am 100% serious, but the mrs is not. We're at a stalemate.
  4. Grillz's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by baikal
    Like Barnum and Bailey, this kitschy act is overdue to fold. I'd rather be watching from the outside as it goes down, and would prefer to finish raising my son elsewhere. I am 100% serious, but the mrs is not. We're at a stalemate.

    Like where? Argentina? South Africa? Zimbabwe? Panama?
  5. oldsquid's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by baikal
    Like Barnum and Bailey, this kitschy act is overdue to fold. I'd rather be watching from the outside as it goes down, and would prefer to finish raising my son elsewhere. I am 100% serious, but the mrs is not. We're at a stalemate.
    I'd still vote for Canada. It's a civilized country and you can learn French at your leisure.
  6. Grillz's Avatar
    The Grillzez is going to stay here and wrestle bitches.

    http://www.wrmea.org/2015-june-july/...69jog.facebook
  7. oldsquid's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Grillz
    The Grillzez is going to stay here and wrestle bitches.

    http://www.wrmea.org/2015-june-july/...69jog.facebook
    Me, too. I will not be intimidated by these Neanderthals. I've been posting over on the AAS site just to needle Ant, and he's playing the same childish game he used to play here. He'll post a comment which later turns out to be wrong, and then deny making the comment. Others over there are picking up on just what a sick motherfucker he is.
  8. baikal's Avatar
    Me and my wife work for a Spanish-based company. We could theoretically relocate to Madrid, Sydney, Santiago, Doha, Dublin, Atlanta or LA.
  9. oldsquid's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by baikal
    Me and my wife work for a Spanish-based company. We could theoretically relocate to Madrid, Sydney, Santiago, Doha, Dublin, Atlanta or LA.
    Sydney's nice, and although I've never been, I hear good things about Dublin, although you'd have to learn the language.
  10. Grillz's Avatar
    Maybe Round Rock?
  11. oldsquid's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Grillz
    Maybe Round Rock?

    That got an audible. It is kind of like moving to a foreign country. Remember that hog hunting show that originated in south Texas where they actually had to put subtitles to Texans speaking English?
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  14. oldsquid's Avatar
    Couple of observations on this "grabbed the wrong bag" defense. I have a couple of "range bags" that are, by definition only used to transport firearms to and from the range and are kept no where near where I store my luggage. When I return from the range, whatever firearms are in that bag are cleaned and placed back in the safe. So even in the highly unlikely event that I would "grab the wrong bag," there would never be a firearm in there. For me and the gun owners I know, that isn't real complicated.
  15. Grillz's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by oldsquid
    Couple of observations on this "grabbed the wrong bag" defense. I have a couple of "range bags" that are, by definition only used to transport firearms to and from the range and are kept no where near where I store my luggage. When I return from the range, whatever firearms are in that bag are cleaned and placed back in the safe. So even in the highly unlikely event that I would "grab the wrong bag," there would never be a firearm in there. For me and the gun owners I know, that isn't real complicated.
    But if you were a foreign born new Assistant National Security Advisor it would be.
  16. Grillz's Avatar
    Updated 02-06-2017 at 06:27 PM by Grillz
  17. oldsquid's Avatar
    I could handle an "unnatural and lascivious act" right about now.

    http://www.statesman.com/news/nation...CpFEoQqcqrt8M/
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldsquid
    I could handle an "unnatural and lascivious act" right about now.

    http://www.statesman.com/news/nation...CpFEoQqcqrt8M/

    Ahem, for *anyone* looking to see that video : search : "Brittney Jones" the first link on the page will find it for you.

    http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/lo...tent/490036349

    Czek the Human Ken Doll vid too :

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ourthouse.html



    Officials said Jones and Robinson know they are wanted by Jacksonville Sheriff's Office but are not cooperating.Anyone who knows where Jones and Robinson are is asked to call the Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office.

    Jones said on Facebook that she would tell her story about posting the video online for a price.


    “To all the news channels following me on Facebook. I know for a fact you’re reading this, so I will let all of you know; I will only do an interview with the highest bidder. Shoot me a price,” she posted on Facebook.



    "Shoot me a price", sounds like one of Trump's women.

    Updated 02-06-2017 at 11:32 PM by Grillz
  20. Grillz's Avatar
    Leading the way for this assortment of populist heroes will be former Goldman honcho Gary Cohn, now Trump's chief economic advisor.

    Dimon, Schwarzman, Fink and Cohn collectively represent a rogues gallery of the creeps most responsible for the 2008 crash. It would be hard to put together a group of people less sympathetic to the non-wealthy.

    Trump's approach to Wall Street is in sharp contrast to his tough-talking stances on terrorism. He talks a big game when slamming the door on penniless refugees, but curls up like a beach weakling around guys who have more money than he does.

    The two primary disasters in American history this century (if we're not counting Trump's election) have been 9/11 and the 2008 financial crisis, which cost 8.7 million people their jobs and may have destroyed as much as 45 percent of the world's wealth.

    http://forward.com/fast-forward/3611...om-goldman-sa/
    Updated 02-07-2017 at 01:38 AM by Grillz
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